Lyndon LaRouche on illegal immigration, space exploration, and his career

Lyndon LaRouche shares his views about illegal immigration, the cancellation of America's space shuttle program and more.

FLORIDA, December 29, 2012 — The DREAM Act and illegal immigration are issues that almost demand controversy. President Obama created a form of DREAM Act “lite” by executive order. If the act itself is ever passed into law, how might it affect the United States? What would be the most politically and socially responsible way to handle the immigration question?

On a less worldly note, the cancellation of our nation’s space shuttle program has forced us to debate the future of manned space exploration. Is a federal space exploration program really important for America?

In this second part of our discussion, economist, commentator, and politician Lyndon LaRouche shares his answers to these pivotal questions. He also tells us about the greatest reward of his career, as well as what inspired him to become such a strong voice on economic and political matters.     

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Joseph F. Cotto: The DREAM Act has been a tremendously contentious issue. If passed, how do you think it would affect the United States?

Lyndon LaRouche: Simply, I would not recommend “gimmicks,” as suggested improvements under the present [law have] already [created] disastrous trends in process now.

Cotto: Illegal immigration is a political lightning rod. What would you say is the most prudent manner of handling it?

LaRouche: [Go] back to the system of sovereign nation-states, which our own principles of due process treatment of families and customary standards for guests should represent! The [way that we tackle the] issue of drug-trafficking [across] our borders, is the measure which, in its own terms, is also the measure for the urgently needed actual reforms. Without that needed reform, we are not being serious.

There is one particular type of exclusionary exception which is to be noted for special attention. I explain that as follows.

The principal threats against our national sovereignty are associated with cardinal categories of offenses such as drug-trafficking, as well as terrorist elements operating as part of a massively growing body of terrorists in Saudi Arabia and that region. These terrorist operatives, including Saudi officials, are presently being “protected” under U.S. special arrangements, as under the George W. Bush, Jr. and Obama governments.

The Obama government continued the official practice of concealing the identities of persons of Saudi-Arabia and related nations who were participants in the original “9-11 group,” and of terrorist groups of kindred pedigrees who have targetted nationals of both the U.S.A. and nations such as Libya, and now Syria.

This has been an affliction which demands those precautionary measures of security which bear upon not only the fraudulent behavior of Britain’s Tony Blair in the flagrant case of the launching of the Second War Against Iraq, but also the evasions of President Barack Obama and his UNO Representative in the matter of the Benghazi slaughter against our diplomats in the most recent “9-11” targetting of U.S. officials in the September 11, 2012 case.

Cotto: The canceling of our nation’s space shuttle program has been the subject of great controversy. Do you believe that space exploration is of particular importance for our country?

LaRouche: Definitely, “Yes.” Next to the already lurking threat of thermonuclear war on our planet itself, the need for defense of Earth against asteroids, and comets, with their actually significant prospective hits on Earth, is of the highest priority.

Defense against particular hits of significant magnitude for long-range intelligence respecting events within the volume of Solar space between the Mars and Venus orbits, and the more challenging “hits” by comets, is of the relatively highest significance. Effective defense [against asteroids and comets] presently means more than one year (or even significantly greater) lead time… Presently we know only a tiny fraction of the relevant locations and related trajectories of objects within the relevant volume of space. This space is a domain within which my associates and I [and all of humanity] have a practical interest.

President Barack Obama’s curbing of U.S. space programs is a piece of, or the most, reckless folly on the part of that President.

The development of … remote-based intelligent capabilities based  on Mars, is crucial, even without human residence on Mars for continuing manned operations there. Man’s Mars-based, and related operations will tend to be limited to exploration and related intelligence rather than anything resembling “colonization” otherwise.

In the meantime, “Curiosity” marks a point for accelerated development of Mars-based systems, … and also [remotely operated systems] within the Earth-Mars volume of asteroidal space, which [must now be combined with] the efforts of Dr. Teller, and his associates in this field, since the close of the 1970s.

Thus, “SDI” has now grown into the challenge of “SDE” ― “Strategic Defense of Earth.”  The “pay-off” for such a “Defense of Earth” program would naturally follow the pattern of advancements in technology on Earth pioneered by our original space program launched during the 1960s. The productive powers of labor would be improved beyond the imagination of most among extremely alert economists today.  

Cotto: What has been the greatest reward of your career?

LaRouche: In net effect, I would reply: it is a life which has been immensely worth the practice and experience of living. 

Cotto: Now that our discussion is at an end, many readers are probably wondering how you came to be such a strong voice on economic and political matters. Tell us a bit about what inspired you work in this regard.

LaRouche: To be as brief as possible: At the close of my military service, which had concluded in the China-India theater in WWII, I chanced to fill in a recovery from a nasty bit of hepatitis with a period in “physically” light management consulting; and, then went on to become an executive in the employ of a larger consulting firm, and then had an independent career with some special operations which I set into motion in the late 1960s, including my participation in the founding of an important scientific foundation of the  1970s and deep into the 1980s. My 1988 “The Woman on Mars” was a bench-mark venture in useful provocations.

To sum matters up: Since early on in adult life, my particular distinction has been in the relatively narrow field of forecasting economic and related future developments, chiefly economic as such.

While I am much more than merely  aware of the use of statistical forecasting, I view such practices as often futile. My field lies essentially in forecasting the actual future beyond what I often regard, justly, as merely statistical and related projections. The difference between the two contrasted sets, is that my speciality represents a qualitative, rather than statistical difference. Otherwise, as I remain actively engaged in physical-economic and related forecasting, at a time past the age of 90, there has been a considerable amount of professional experience of true forecasting, rather than the merely statistical, “under the belt.”

Thank you “for the ride” afforded by this occasion to reply.

For Part 1 of this interview, click here


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Joseph F. Cotto is a social journalist by trade and student of history by lifestyle choice. He hails from central Florida, writing about political, economic, and social issues of the day. In the past, he was a contributor to Blogcritics Magazine, among other publications. He is currently at work on a book about American society.

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